mua SUV ??????

[daopaul]

Neu bạn mua V6-SUV dựa trên gasmileage, less maintenance, min. repair record các bạn sẽ chọn xe SUV nào?

[R-34]

neu ma R-34 thi se chon Highlander or RAV4

[hyperlinh]

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[sung35]

Mua minivan đi. Chiếc Honda Odyssey nhìn cũng bốc lửa lắm, mà đỡ tốn xăng hơn SUV

[GioLanh]

RAV4 or CRV (my preference) is a good choice for small SUV
For regular size SUV, 4Runner is still the favorite (of most Asian people).

[Con Khi Kho]

Honda Pilot or Acura MDX for me.

[daopaul]

Mua minivan đi. Chiếc Honda Odyssey nhìn cũng bốc lửa lắm, mà đỡ tốn xăng hơn SUV

cam on các bạn. P đang o vùng nhieu tuyet nen thấy SUV thich hop hon.tuy nhien moi ngay fải chay di làm trrên 60 miles one way nên khong thich xe uong xang..có ai dã chay chiec RX300 ? xin cho biet y kien.. cam on

[bach_congtu]

cam on các bạn. P đang o vùng nhieu tuyet nen thấy SUV thich hop hon.tuy nhien moi ngay fải chay di làm trrên 60 miles one way nên khong thich xe uong xang..có ai dã chay chiec RX300 ? xin cho biet y kien.. cam on
welcome....them mo^.t ba'c o MA nua....ba'c Paul ddi lam o ddau muh xa the? North, South, East hay West?

co' the^m ba'c Paul, bay gio dda'm MA vuong co' 4 members roi :)

[BabyOneMoreKiss]

RX300 or HighLander is my choice :) mấy loại này thì bền, ít hự bạy and chạy rất tốt.
Nếu bro có tiền nhiều thì mua RX330 lái cho nó đã :)

[daopaul]

welcome....them mo^.t ba'c o MA nua....ba'c Paul ddi lam o ddau muh xa the? North, South, East hay West?

co' the^m ba'c Paul, bay gio dda'm MA vuong co' 4 members roi :)


o bien gioi NH, di lam o RI... cha.y 495 S,,,,,

[MQuang]

RX300 or HighLander is my choice :) mấy loại này thì bền, ít hự bạy and chạy rất tốt.
Nếu bro có tiền nhiều thì mua RX330 lái cho nó đã :)

yup, MQ cũng đồng ý, mua RX 330 di :dance1:

[homer]

o bien gioi NH, di lam o RI... cha.y 495 S,,,,,
từ NH chạy xuống RI xa lắm á, tui nghĩ hơn cả 60 miles
bác làm ở khu nào của RI, chỗ RI đâu thấy có hãng xưỡng thì lớn đâu?
sao không dọn xuống RI ở luôn cho rồi

[cis]

any small compact V6 SUV will be less than 25 miles per gallon on freeway... Buy corolla or Civic will save a lot of gas :D :D

[snoopy]

good luck filling up the tank for 60 miles per day to work :rolleyes:

[steveh]

Nếu bạn đã chọn RX300 thì giá xăng không còn là vấn đề nửa!!!

Tại vì nó cần supreme unlead thay vì unlead như xe khác :)

[MQuang]

supreme unlead giá mắc hơn hả bạn ??

[TranHuuTien]

man..sao toan toyota or honda khong vay?...when come to suv... buy the ford explorer..or...ford escape...mua x emo'i chiec nao cung vay...but these are better..nam nam sau dem tade in for a new one!
second opinion are pickuop trucks.., tacoma, tundra, ridgeline or titan!
or the double cab pick up hehe...dodge ram!...haha...or f150 double cab...or silverado! if u lie in snowy climate those are the ones for u....

[steveh]

supreme unlead giá mắc hơn hả bạn ??

Giá xăng bây giờ ở Southern California (U.S.)
unlead 87 octane $2.33/gallon
high octane 89 $2.43/gallon
supreme unlead 91 $2.56/gallon

Mấy loại xe Lexus cần xăng tốt nhất, nếu không engine sẽ bị kêu....

[bach_congtu]

o bien gioi NH, di lam o RI... cha.y 495 S,,,,,
ba'c o 495S vay la gan ba'c VM roi....ba'c ay o Lowell cung ddo' chu ddau....tui lam o Westford cung off ca'i con dduong 495...lau lau cung cha.y xuong NH a(n buffet a'....nhung muh 60 miles xa thiet a'....toi ba'c qua'....

[daopaul]

từ NH chạy xuống RI xa lắm á, tui nghĩ hơn cả 60 miles
bác làm ở khu nào của RI, chỗ RI đâu thấy có hãng xưỡng thì lớn đâu?
sao không dọn xuống RI ở luôn cho rồi


vì còn business tren này.. từ lowell ve sát bien gioi ma-ri
tuy chay xa 1 chut nhung có cái khác ...bù lại

[bach_congtu]

vì còn business tren này.. từ lowell ve sát bien gioi ma-ri
tuy chay xa 1 chut nhung có cái khác ...bù lại
ca'i gi? :p

[daopaul]

:Z: ca'i gi? :p
neu khi nào huởn, ace vcb họp mat choi//??

[RX300]

MPG=19 constantly for mix of 50/50 highway and local roads (2001 RX300). Probably 20MPG for 70/30.

[snoopy]

MPG=19 constantly for mix of 50/50 highway and local roads (2001 RX300). Probably 20MPG for 70/30.

more like 15 mpg since the test on sticker invented 20 or so years ago, they tested @ 50 mph on highway with NO air condition, no CD/DVD player .... not realistic, they will have new standard test beginning 2008 models or so :cool:

[hoangvl]

ừa, nghe nói Lexus RX "drive like a car", gọn gẽ ít uống xăng. Còn nếu đường tuyết giá chơi luôn chiếc LX470, v8, 13mpg, đổ xăng đau bụng luôn. Nhưng chiếc này thiên hạ khen là chạy đường đồng, đường đèo, off road là số một. Mình mới dớt 1 chiếc. Đổ xăng đau bụng thiệt. Êm cái mông, đau cái bụng, hahaha...

Impressions :

Dzọt, gọn, đỡ hao xăng : Acura MDX, BMW X5

Êm bồng bềnh : Lincoln Navigator

Coi cũng được : Cadillac Escalade

Bền, xe Nhật, safe bets : Mitsubishi Montero, Honda Pilot

Xe Mỹ vừa túi tiền : Ford Explorer

[RX300]

The sticker says 20 for local and 23 for highway but he screen indicator on my 2001 is 19 mpg (matching with what I calculated gas_tank/mileage several times) based on 50/50 ratio of highway and local roads (3.5 miles from my house to highway and 3.5 miles from highway to workplace).


more like 15 mpg since the test on sticker invented 20 or so years ago, they tested @ 50 mph on highway with NO air condition, no CD/DVD player .... not realistic, they will have new standard test beginning 2008 models or so :cool:

[cis]

I see no point buying an SUV but never take off road it suppose too.... :hammer: :hammer:

[snoopy]

ừa, nghe nói Lexus RX "drive like a car", gọn gẽ ít uống xăng. Còn nếu đường tuyết giá chơi luôn chiếc LX470, v8, 13mpg, đổ xăng đau bụng luôn. Nhưng chiếc này thiên hạ khen là chạy đường đồng, đường đèo, off road là số một.


Trừ khi ở trong small cities mới không có cào tuyết, big cities got big $$$ for snow removal, còn chuyện chạy đường đồng hay đường đèo chỉ là once a year, tại chẳng có ai trên đó mà thăm, vả lại mấy cái sedan chạy lên cũng okay, trừ khi chiếc xe đó là củ rít :coolgleam

[siesta]

Chạy offroad ra đồng ruộng thì không có xe nào chạy tốt bằng xe... mướn!!! Tui chạy xe của company, gặp ổ gà, sình lầy, ngập tuyết gì cũng vậy, nhấn ga xuống cho nó rú lên như heo bị thọc tiết là nó qua tuốt luốt... Kẹt trong tuyết, cũng khỏi cần nhẹ nhàng êm dịu theo kỹ thuật lái xe trên tuyết làm chi cho mệt, cứ hì hục giật tới giật lui ầm ầm, một tí xíu là ra được ngay. Còn tui thấy mấy bà đẹp đẹp lái chiếc Lexus xinh xinh ra mall, cán trúng cái road bump mắt đỏ hoe gần khóc, vậy mà offroad gì được chứ!!

[snoopy]

Chạy offroad ra đồng ruộng thì không có xe nào chạy tốt bằng xe... mướn!!!

Đúng rồi đó! Tui cũng thích chạy xe mướn lắm, tha hồ mà abused :cigar: còn mấy cô VN chạy mấy chiếc SUV nhiều lúc không thấy người lái ở đâu hết :35laugh:

[daopaul]

The sticker says 20 for local and 23 for highway but he screen indicator on my 2001 is 19 mpg (matching with what I calculated gas_tank/mileage several times) based on 50/50 ratio of highway and local roads (3.5 miles from my house to highway and 3.5 miles from highway to workplace).



nếu vậy cung chỉ xê xích 9/10 voi chiêc ml320 P đang chay. chac khong cần đổi xe nửa. ngai 1 cái là ml 320 part và bảo trì quá .. xót

[bach_congtu]

:Z:
neu khi nào huởn, ace vcb họp mat choi//??
sure ...ba'c muon ho.p o ddau?

[daopaul]

thanh thanh? weekend?

[bach_congtu]

thanh thanh? weekend?
weekends muh cha.y xuong duoi ddo' thi hoi xa a'....tui cung nhu ba'c la'y xe ddi la`m xa....ngay tui la'y 1hour xuong duoi...cho nen dde tui suy nghi la.i xem sao :)

[daopaul]

vay bac o đâu?. toi o 01876.cach th thanh 3 miles

[bach_congtu]

vay bac o đâu?. toi o 01876.cach th thanh 3 miles
tui song o Everett, MA....02149...tui lam o Westford, MA...01886....Everett ca'ch Westford khoang 40 miles....

[daopaul]

vậy cũng met dzữ à nha. bao gio có dip đi an phở hú anh em ở lowell 1 tiếng..

[alann]

Oh man, đi làm 1 way 60 miles, đòi tiết kiệm tiền xăng mà chơi SUV V6 thì chẳng hiểu bác này tính làm sao nữa??? pó tay! Bác muốn "show off" (nói thiệt tình nghen) thì đừng tính chuyện tiết kiệm xăng làm monkey gì. Chứ bác tính mua xe SUV ngon chạy xa kiểu này chừng khoảng 2 năm là mileage xe bác lên vù vù, hết giá trị. Not worth it.

Đi làm xa kiếm cái xe tàng tàng như Civic hay Corolla 4 máy là kinh tế nhất, cũng không đến nổi mất mặt bầu cua!

[azntg4boi]

if you're looking for a small suv, i'll go with the rx400h, very gas sufficient, and oh my god! the power is just incredible. I'd prefer u stay away from the lexus gx470. It will eat you out alive, i have one and it sucks gas like i drink water every 5 mins. it gets around 10 mpg. But anyhow, i love it but i'd prefer the rx400h.

[alann]

Man, are you living in a celebrity mansion? you guy are talking nuts ... if you drive luxury cars, why give a damn about gas saving? Mấy bác tám nói chiện trên trời không dzậy ... nào là Lexus RX400h, GX470 @#$ đi làm 1 way >50 miles/day chạy Lexus còn nói chiện tiết kiệm tiền gas, còn cái xe mua 5, 6 chục ngàn chạy 2, 3 năm còn gì value. Mấy bác muốn "show off" thì nói cao cao tí, mua luôn Lotus hay Roll đi.

Re-do your math...

[snoopy]

that's why oil companies are so cheerful past years, thanks to SUV and big cars buyers :encore:

[azntg4boi]

its not about the money that i'm mainly concerned, but getting 10 mpg is rediculous. I don't mind paying gas for it all but i'd rather buy something else for a daily driver. Well think of it this way, Lexus might seem all all fancy and all but its not. Why pay 45k for a toyota 4 runner when u can add 5k more for a lexus? ha, don't hate because u lower yourself in a degree like that. Some people are more fortunate and im' just another member trying to help out the community. Just think about, best bang for the buck. No need to show off homie.

[alann]

not really best bang for the buck...I think bad math calculation and going after the name are the factors. 45K for a 4Runer w/full options is lots better than 50K low end Lexus w/no option or less options.

Here's your word "Lexus might seem all all fancy and all but its not." So, if it's not, why pay more for something is NOT... and they're all ACTUALLY from the same company ??? You're really contradict to yourself, ...homie !

..my 2 cents..

[iwillnotbesad]

http://www.landroverusa.com/us/en/Vehicles/LR3/Overview.htm

LR3

[azntg4boi]

alann, due to that comment u just had about the 45k 4 runner with fully loaded options, you're totaly wrong and u have no back up information. due to the fact that a 50k gx470 is fully loaded with rear seat entertainment, nav w/mark levingston 310 watt sound system, height control like hydrolics and kdss suspension that the gx470 will not lean how bad of a curve you're in. And not to mention that the gx470 comes STANDARD with leather and 4 wheel drive. Do some more research so that you can back up your comments.

my $0.02

[azntg4boi]

iwillnotbesad, i love the land rovers and the range rovers but i've been to different fourms before i bought my gx470, land rovers and range rover owners discussed many problems that they experience with the car. But no doubt, i would love to have one, just mechanical problems that get in the way, being on the safer side.

[imrcfrompa]

Speaking of " mechanical problem " .. I just happened to be stupid enough to own a Jaguar XJ8 and nothing but problems and troubles. Just let everybody know to stay away from that " good looking " car.


iwillnotbesad, i love the land rovers and the range rovers but i've been to different fourms before i bought my gx470, land rovers and range rover owners discussed many problems that they experience with the car. But no doubt, i would love to have one, just mechanical problems that get in the way, being on the safer side.

[GioLanh]

if you're looking for a small suv, i'll go with the rx400h, very gas sufficient, and oh my god! the power is just incredible. I'd prefer u stay away from the lexus gx470. It will eat you out alive, i have one and it sucks gas like i drink water every 5 mins. it gets around 10 mpg. But anyhow, i love it but i'd prefer the rx400h.
10mpg for gx470?
unless u're hard on gas pedal, something wrong with your lexus.
Mine gives me about 18-19mpg (50 hiway/50 street)

[GioLanh]

Here's your word "Lexus might seem all all fancy and all but its not." So, if it's not, why pay more for something is NOT... and they're all ACTUALLY from the same company ???

U keep saying (or thinking) that Lexus and Toyota are the same.
But it's NOT.
They may be owned by the same company but they're two separate entities.

[alann]

U keep saying (or thinking) that Lexus and Toyota are the same.
But it's NOT.
They may be owned by the same company but they're two separate entities.

Where did you see I wrote "THE SAME"? those are from your own word !!

"...10mpg for gx470?
unless u're hard on gas pedal, something wrong with your lexus.
Mine gives me about 18-19mpg (50 hiway/50 street) ..."

15 mpg city
19 mpg highway
But that from "EPA-estimated ratings: 15 city/19 highway mpg. Actual mileage may vary" (I pick exact words from Lexus.com)

Whoever tell you 10mpg for GX470 on city road is reasonable. You got a built-in "Super computer" in your brain and legs to make that 19mpg on your GX. What you said is just "fantacy", even you hard make 19mpg on highway!

Sorry dude, I think you don't know what you're talking about.

[RX300]

Yeah 18-19mpg is incredible number for GX470 since my 2001 RX300 constantly gets 19mpg. Do you read that number from MPG screen? If I remember correctly my friend's LX470 gets about 13mpg.

I'll post a napshot of the info screen later.

[GioLanh]

Where did you see I wrote "THE SAME"? those are from your own word !!

You said: "they're all ACTUALLY from the same company ???"
I said: "They may be owned by the same company but they're two separate entities."
You do not see the point?

azntg4boi said: "it gets around 10 mpg"
I said: "Mine gives me about 18-19mpg"
EPA-estimated ratings: 15 city/19 highway mpg. Actual mileage may vary"
Alan, do you own one to make your statement?
What part of "Actual mileage may vary" you don't understand?

Anyone gets low mileage out of their car depends on many conditions:
1) driving habits
2) road conditions
3) car conditions

RX300, your mileage is on the low side as well.
Also, LX470 (~6900 lbs) is heavier than GX470 (6200 lbs)

[alann]

You said: "they're all ACTUALLY from the same company ???"
I said: "They may be owned by the same company but they're two separate entities."
You do not see the point?

azntg4boi said: "it gets around 10 mpg"
I said: "Mine gives me about 18-19mpg"
EPA-estimated ratings: 15 city/19 highway mpg. Actual mileage may vary"
Alan, do you own one to make your statement?
What part of "Actual mileage may vary" you don't understand?

Anyone gets low mileage out of their car depends on many conditions:
1) driving habits
2) road conditions
3) car conditions

RX300, your mileage is on the low side as well.
Also, LX470 (~6900 lbs) is heavier than GX470 (6200 lbs)

Man, you're so stubborn. Go to Lexus.com and read for yourself.

I'd never seen (or rarely seen) any user could exceed whatever manufacture rating??? "Actual mileage may vary" to you, means you can exceed the rating?

Incredible human being!!

[GioLanh]

I'd never seen (or rarely seen) any user could exceed whatever manufacture rating??? "Actual mileage may vary" to you, means you can exceed the rating?
The Lexus.com website said: "Actual mileage may vary". (I did put the exact quote from Lexus.com)
It does NOT mean "Actual mileage is LOWER than the MFR ratings"
Again, "vary" means "higher or lower". Eventhough most of the real mileage are LOWER but it does not mean "AIN"T no way U can get HIGHER". Get my grip?

U said: "I'd never seen (or rarely seen) any user could exceed whatever manufacture rating?"
I'm not sure how many people "U'd actually seen" but it does not mean that CAN'T happen.

If U cannot afford (or do not like) Lexus, I can understand that.
But if U think Lexus is not worth the price, think again.
It's worth every penny.

[alann]

The Lexus.com website said: "Actual mileage may vary". (I did put the exact quote from Lexus.com)
It does NOT mean "Actual mileage is LOWER than the MFR ratings"
Again, "vary" means "higher or lower". Eventhough most of the real mileage are LOWER but it does not mean "AIN"T no way U can get HIGHER". Get my grip?

U said: "I'd never seen (or rarely seen) any user could exceed whatever manufacture rating?"
I'm not sure how many people "U'd actually seen" but it does not mean that CAN'T happen.

If U cannot afford (or do not like) Lexus, I can understand that.
But if U think Lexus is not worth the price, think again.
It's worth every penny.

You're so naive! you think only you can affort Lexus. When people don't tell, maybe they own more than you think. You should learn more English and be more practical.:attention: yeah, think again.

[GioLanh]

You're so naive! you think only you can affort Lexus. When people don't tell, maybe they own more than you think. You should learn more English and be more practical.:attention: yeah, think again.
Are you getting to "personal" or what?
In my previous post, I just say "IF" (very big IF because I do not know the fact)
You start calling me name ("You're so naive!") and tell me "You should learn more English"?
I'm just gonna ignore this post now.

Remember, we're here to talk about cars !!! (not U or me)

[alann]

!..just a little :laugh:
You provided us some feedback based on your impractical facts.
...and great...you should ignore this topic.

Thanks,

[R-34]

debate thì debate nhưng xin đừng lấy personal quá khíêng bầu không khí trong đây nóng quá, hãy ngồi xuống vo vai ly :cheer:

[CestLaVie]

What about Nissan Murano or X3? Look and performance are OK.

[alann]

OK..OK.. no personal :laugh: ... we all need facts not myth.
After doing a little research, I can't believe what I see. Actually IBM X3 w/almost full options is much cheaper than Murano (w/almost full options)!! In that case, I go for IBM. I like the name too :laugh:

[CestLaVie]

OK..OK.. no personal :laugh: ... we all need facts not myth.
After doing a little research, I can't believe what I see. Actually IBM X3 w/almost full options is much cheaper than Murano (w/almost full options)!! In that case, I go for IBM. I like the name too :laugh:

I didn't know IBM make car Allan :-) J/K you spent too much time on your computer.

[alann]

it was a typo, bro. BMW instead... my bad.

[cis]

Đọc mấy cái debate này xong Cissy mắc cuới quá hehehe.. BTW, ai có Lexus thì take off road lần nài chưa hả ???

[azntg4boi]

Wow, I haven't been on for a couple of days and it seems like this is crazy.

ColdWind: you have a gx470 too? I don't know about yours, but mine is killing me on gas. I doubt that it has anything to do with breaking in the engine, but i gave mine hell when i first bought it not knowning any better. I've ran mine at the tracks and everything. But on a normal day to day basics, all i do is drive to school and back and yea...I've checked yesterday and i've got 294 miles out of a 23 gallon tank. after doing the math it was about 13 mpg. And its based on 22 gallons because i've had a couple of miles left on the dash.


alann, Are you sure the x3 is cheaper than the murano? I highly doubt it. I've checked out a couple of them before. but though, the murano does have a better body style.

The murano is amazingly fast. Not faster than my heavy ass gx though. My friend has one and we've ran on the streets and on the track. I'm just surprise on what a 4.7 in a heavy ass truck like mine can do. I've also took my baby off roading too. Handles well. Thats where all the comparisons come in to play. 4x4 equiped 4-runners and 4x4 dodge rams couldn't go through some of the mudd that i've went in.

[alann]

Wow, I haven't been on for a couple of days and it seems like this is crazy.

ColdWind: you have a gx470 too? I don't know about yours, but mine is killing me on gas. I doubt that it has anything to do with breaking in the engine, but i gave mine hell when i first bought it not knowning any better. I've ran mine at the tracks and everything. But on a normal day to day basics, all i do is drive to school and back and yea...I've checked yesterday and i've got 294 miles out of a 23 gallon tank. after doing the math it was about 13 mpg. And its based on 22 gallons because i've had a couple of miles left on the dash.


alann, Are you sure the x3 is cheaper than the murano? I highly doubt it. I've checked out a couple of them before. but though, the murano does have a better body style.

The murano is amazingly fast. Not faster than my heavy ass gx though. My friend has one and we've ran on the streets and on the track. I'm just surprise on what a 4.7 in a heavy ass truck like mine can do. I've also took my baby off roading too. Handles well. Thats where all the comparisons come in to play. 4x4 equiped 4-runners and 4x4 dodge rams couldn't go through some of the mudd that i've went in.

I just pick that up from edmunds.com. After picking up most important options for both models, the price came out with very competitive number, not cheaper, but it was very close. If I did write it cheaper, I was wrong. Try and see.

[GioLanh]

azntg4boi:
13mpg is on the low side of mileage.
It depends on many things (as I said in previous posts)
1) mechanical condition
2) road condition
3) driving habit
All of these added up can kill your mileage.

FYI, you should never run your tank down like that.
I normally fill up when it hits about 1/4
I get ~280mi for ~16gal refilled.

[azntg4boi]

Yea, as i do live in the country. I just recently moved from ATL to Al. The only reason why i bought the gx because of its campability on the dirt roads and all that stuff. Much safer. But i never included the factor of gas. Well i don't always run it down like that. Only reason why is because i wanted to see what i'm actually getting.