replacement for timing belt!!!!!

Hello, question:

How do you know when the timing belt's need to be change????? I bought this car at 93k miles, but I never change it, Is it okey to drive if it nothing wrong??? but if I want to replace what show I buy, I heard that if I want to replace the timing belt I need to replace the water pump also, and the other part to help the timming rotation, Is it true? IS THIS EASY TO DO?

my car information: Honda Civic, 92, CI, hatback, stick shift, 109k miles.

thanks all.


Coldwind....by the way my brother car already fixed, I brought his car back to the body shop that replaced the timming for him and asked them to check it, first they say they will charge after that I argue with them, and then they okey to fix for us...this is not good, anyway, thanks alot for your help......

[steveh]

On average, you SHOULD replace at 70K or 7 yrs. If you're driving on Freeway a lot, then 90K should be okay. At your current mileage, you're pushing your luck.

You should replace it ASAP because when the timing belt in Honda is break, it will cost a lot of money!!! The design of Honda is more complicate than other car makers which will cost more to fix it if the belt is broke.

thanks steveh...

[Rice and Potatoes]

timing belt replacement on your model is reccommend at 90k, they suggest to also replace the water pump because it is driven (spun) by the timing belt and on avaerage usually have a 100k life, if you not replace it and only install new t-belt,if when the waterpump should go bad (likey in 20k or so) you'll basically be paying the say labor all over again just to replace the pump due to the fact they will remove the t-belt in order to service your water pump. As for replace yourself, I suggest no, unless you have experience and know what you are doing, it is an exact science, you install wrong, it could destroy your engine in a second flat. hope this maybe help you.

JCN

[GioLanh]

Bill,
replacing timing belt is not that hard but U have to know what u're doing.
Otherwise, U will have a knocking engine !!!
I would replace TB around 70K miles. Maybe the person U bought the car from already replaced the TB (did U ask?)

I suggest U go to a trusted mechanic and let him do it.
This is what U should do:
1) change new front cam seal
2) water pump
3) timing belt
4) alternator/ps/ac belts as well.

The labor should not be much more for all these steps.
Little trick for U to save some labor money.
Go to a shop and ask them how much to change the front cam seal.
In order for them to take it out, they have to do the other 3 steps.
If it's someone U know a little, U can go to Honda dealer and buy the parts and just pay for the labor (around 150-200 bucks)
the parts cost U from dealer around 150 bucks.
It's a $300 project

If U just go to the shop and ask them to do all that, I bet they will quote U parts+labor = ~$600

that's sound GREAT, first I will buy part and try out, and if I can't do that, I will take to the shop....again thanks COlDWIND......

[Con Khi Kho]

Changing TB is not as easy like you think. I recomended you to bring it to a trusted mechanic and let them do it for you.

thanks CKK.

Coldwind, question for ya......what is front cam seal?????if I tell them,they will know what is it right???

[Nam]

Unless you have already done the timing belt replacement before and you know what you are doing...don't try. If you start removing components, your car is not drivable anymore.

Billh02000, front cam seal is the seal on the cylinder head that prevents oil from coming out.

Do not take risk with Honda engine...you'd better replace the belt ASAP. If the belt breaks, you will likely end up with a huge repair cost to replace all bend valves and damage cylinder head.

Good luck,

Nam

Originally posted by Nam
Unless you have already done the timing belt replacement before and you know what you are doing...don't try. If you start removing components, your car is not drivable anymore.

Billh02000, front cam seal is the seal on the cylinder head that prevents oil from coming out.

Do not take risk with Honda engine...you'd better replace the belt ASAP. If the belt breaks, you will likely end up with a huge repair cost to replace all bend valves and damage cylinder head.

Good luck,

Nam

thanks for your advice NAM,,,my brother he toll me, he can help me to install the timing belt for me, he's already learned how to do it, he's look and learned from the shop, and he's asked me by the chain to hold down the wheel....anyway I will give a try.....because next Friday is my free day..... ...I love to learn new stuff.....anyway thanks alot.....

[pLaYbOi]

b4 u guys start to do this on ur own..
consider getting a helm manual for exact details of what needed to do..
or u could ask the tech guys on honda-tech.com

[yeudoi]

change it now bro. every 100K change it.

[dragonme]

the seal is call "front crank shaft seal" and it located right behind the Front crank pully. The main pully that most of the belt wrap around it.
A word of advice for u when changing timing belt on the honda. Read your manual to get the right aligement mark on the timing pully. If you have it wrong after you install the timing belt you could bent the valve and you will have a major head job after that.Otherwise your Honda is very easy to do. To remove the crackshaft valve just use a screwdriver and a hammer and break the old seal out and put a new one back in.And u can change the water pump at the same time too also very easy once u have the valve cover open .If you have a Toyota u wouldn't be worry about the wrong timing mark aligement because u can try it again if u have it wrong .Why, because the way toyota design it head is better than the honda, the valve on the toyota does not tough the cylinder head even when the timing belt broke. But on a Honda the valve is extent to the cylinder head and one the timing belt broke the cylinder head will touch the valve and bent it.

Here is a tip for you since this is the first time u try it.
Before removing the timing belt Set your piston at top dead, then use a white marker "wipe out would be good" and mark the position of the old timing belt against the pulley "the crankshaft pulley and the camshaft pulley" so u would have a reference to go by with the new timing belt.

thanks Dragonme, that's alot of help........